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Messagepar smartine57 » Mer Déc 02, 2009 5:01 pm

Frédérique 1:
Pour les perruches bleues, c'est pas pareil , on a rien crée et il existe des origines diverses pour les mutations puisque des oiseaux différents ont mutés naturellement (à plus ou moins grande échelle)et ce, à des moments différents.

Néanmoins, le point similaire c'est le fixage de mutations par consanguinité de certains éleveurs...

...Mais chez les chiens, la consanguinité n'a normalement plus cours depuis bien longtemps .


Frédérique, combien de perruches bleues avait-on initialement quand on a commencé à en créer? Ce n'est pas parcqu'il y en a beaucoup maintenant qu'il y en avait beaucoup initialement, c'est pareil avec tes 5 chiens, ils ont beau être beaucoup, ils viennent tous du même bassin génétique, c'est cela le problème.

Au début dans les élevages il y avait un nombre très restreint de perruches bleues. Ce n'est pas parce qu'une mutation apparait spontanément dans la nature qu'on peut l'exploiter ad infinitum. La seule façon qu'on a de fixer une nouvelle mutation c'est d'utiliser des proches parents. C'est pour cela que beaucoup de mutations ont disparues, on n'avait pas un nombre suffisant de porteurs, même en prenant de proches parents et la mutation n'a pas pu être fixé du tout.

Je ne parle pas seulement de mutations de bleues, se sont les première apparues, maintenant les mutations et les mélanges de mutations existent par centaines. On ne trouve jamais dans la nature une pie diluée, ou une pie cinnamon. Juste les bleues et les inos se retrouvent naturellement.
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