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Merci pour les infos Martine. ;)

Statistiques: Posté par Camimie — Dim Fév 21, 2010 7:20 pm


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2010-03-05T18:45:03-04:00 2010-02-21T19:16:38-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=239699#p239699 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Y'a quelqu'un qui a un lien là-dessus ? Et c'est des vétérinaires aviaires qui disent ça ?


C'est très courant chez plusieurs espèces. Wissman parle ici de maladie du foie gras (stéatose hépatique), mais toutes les espèces peuvent être affectées.

Parrots suffering from hepatic lipidosis are typically obese. The species most commonly affected are the Amazon parrots, Quakers, budgerigars, cockatiels, lovebirds and Rose-breasted cockatoos.
(dans la section sur le fatty liver)

Encore Wissman
Budgies, and to a lesser extent, cockatiels, are very prone to obesity and the problems related to being overweight. The obese budgie or cockatiel may develop lipomas, benign fatty tumors. These may be found over the crop area, the chest, or most commonly, the abdomen.
(dans la section Small Parrots in Health and Disease)

The problem of obesity is common to all species
By Chris Hall BVetMed MRCVS Cette article est vraiment bon.
http://www.pipress.org/2010/02/obesity-in-parrots/

"These foods are very high in fats and in protein. Analyses of wild macaw diets suggest that their diet may be 28% fat. Pet birds are much more sedentary than their wild counterparts. Like retired athletes, some pet birds have a desire for more calories than their bodies need. This is very common in Amazon parrots. High fat diets, if fed to excess, can result in obesity--something that rarely happens to wild parrots."
Joel Murphy, DVM Florida Exotic Bird Research Center
http://www.landofvos.com/articles/NutNutrition.html

Obesity is a common finding in pet birds. If your bird's body weight exceeds the normal or expected body weight for that species by 15 percent or more, it is likely to be obese.
Tom Roudybush Department of Avian Sciences at the University of California, Davis
http://www.petpublishing.com/birdtimes/ ... bird.shtml

“Birds develop weight problems for the same reason people do — too many calories and too little exercise,” said Larry Nemetz, DVM, an avian-only veterinarian in California. “
http://www.birdchannel.com/bird-diet-an ... esity.aspx

Tous ces liens sont de vétérinaires ou en font référence. Tous les perroquets peuvent souffrir d'obésité. Les amas de graisses que mentionnaient Marie-Maude en citant le Dre Pilotte sont les plus fréquents, ce sont des lipomes ou des xanthomes. Souvent ils sont à l'origine du picage et les gens ne doute même pas que leurs oiseaux sont obèses.

Fatty tumours that lie beneath the skin (subcutaneous lipomas or xanthomas) are the most common neoplasms of birds. These encapsulated benign tumours are composed of mature fat cells. They generally occur in overweight birds and are most commonly seen in budgerigars, galahs and sulphur crested cockatoos.
http://www.birdhealth.com.au/bird/er/conditions.html

Pour le savoir il faut vraiment les peser et pouvoir estimé leur poid santé. J'ai eu une perruches qui est passé de 36 à 52 grammes pendant différentes phase de sa maladie. Si il n'avait pas été peser, il aurait été presque impossible de voir si il était gros ou maigre. Quand ils sont gros, on le voit surtout pas le sternum, l'histoire des pattes je trouve ça un peu farfelu, j'aimerais bien connaitre la source de cette histoire.

Statistiques: Posté par smartine57 — Dim Fév 21, 2010 7:16 pm


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2010-02-21T18:06:19-04:00 2010-02-21T18:06:19-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=239674#p239674 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par Camimie — Dim Fév 21, 2010 6:06 pm


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2007-02-28T15:25:03-04:00 2007-02-28T15:25:03-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4597#p4597 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par Milou — Mer Fév 28, 2007 3:25 pm


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On devrait tous avoir une balance à la maison et faire des "check up" de temps en temps, en plus de l'examen annuel chez le vét.

Statistiques: Posté par marie-maude — Mer Fév 28, 2007 3:16 pm


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Quand on parle de troubles de l'alimentation...

Statistiques: Posté par Numerinos — Mer Fév 28, 2007 3:14 pm


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Statistiques: Posté par crimsonsoda — Mer Fév 28, 2007 2:10 pm


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Par contre, il faut faire très attention surtout pour un plumeau malade du foie à ne pas changer les choses trop brusquement. La vét a été catégorique, il faut changer le régime, mais surtout éviter que l'animal devienne anorexique, ce serait pire que le mal.

Donc la procédure que j'ai suivi est celle-ci : tenter de "gaver" avec le plus de bonne nourriture : légumes, fruits, pain, pâtes entières, riz. Comme ça, le perroq aura moins envie de se garrocher sur la junk-food. J'ai aussi changer les graines (tournesol, maïs, arachides, noix) pour un mélange plus varié et sans noix ni arachide. Juste une demi-amande le matin quand je quitte pour le travail. Faut pas être sadique quand même.

Mais bien entendu, en cas de doute d'obésité, consulter un vét, car le poids "normal" est variable d'un individu à l'autre (Victor, avec 368 gr est un petit-gros. Heureusement, il écoute pas :lol:

Statistiques: Posté par Pinco — Mer Fév 28, 2007 2:05 pm


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2007-02-28T13:48:27-04:00 2007-02-28T13:48:27-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4485#p4485 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par crimsonsoda — Mer Fév 28, 2007 1:48 pm


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Mimi

Statistiques: Posté par mimilafourmi — Mer Fév 28, 2007 1:38 pm


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2007-02-28T13:37:42-04:00 2007-02-28T13:37:42-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4475#p4475 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par marie-maude — Mer Fév 28, 2007 1:37 pm


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2007-02-28T12:49:00-04:00 2007-02-28T12:49:00-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4447#p4447 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par Numerinos — Mer Fév 28, 2007 12:49 pm


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2007-02-28T12:53:37-04:00 2007-02-28T12:38:43-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4439#p4439 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par marie-maude — Mer Fév 28, 2007 12:38 pm


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2007-02-28T12:29:54-04:00 2007-02-28T12:29:54-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4435#p4435 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par Numerinos — Mer Fév 28, 2007 12:29 pm


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2007-02-28T12:25:53-04:00 2007-02-28T12:25:53-04:00 https://www.forum-perroquet.com/viewtopic.php?t=550&p=4432#p4432 <![CDATA[l'obésité chez les perroquets]]> Statistiques: Posté par Francoispier — Mer Fév 28, 2007 12:25 pm


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